
You willing to copy that one????
Here we go again - Third times a bad omen for brake failures this year. How many times will this happen? Does anyone else want to speak up now before our driver gets hurt?
Hello media - where are you??
Something's wrong here - can you not see it?
This is beyond ridiculous, embarrassing and frankly hard to believe!! Who would have thought after the expected engine failures at DEI that we would have MORE parts and engine failures at HMS?
One would not be so furious about this if it happened to our teammates as well - but it doesn't!! Why?
I'm tired of asking why. We've started a petition to ask Mr Hendrick to fix this, the fans have been very vocal, but the problems continue. We started out polite in asking for help - but we're yelling now, can you hear us?
We are not willing to wait until next year to see IF we can do better!!! We want this car to be first class in equipment like the 48,5 and 24. For crying out loud, what the heck is going on - I am beyond mad.
I am now at the point of being frightened for the safety of Dale Jr. We go to Talladega next weekend and believe you me there better be no problems related to crap parts, testing brakes and other suspect failures!!
Who sets the brake bias on the car anyway? The Martinsville car was brand new - but what good did that do us when it ran like crap and something was VERY WRONG with the brakes. I posted on twitter last week sometime prior to this race that our brakes better be good and that we were watching the team. Unfortunately, we as fans, cannot watch what is going on with this car and the brakes failed again.
It's up to Dale Jr, his family and people that care about him who will have to take control of this and stop it. I am sure something will be done, this cannot go on - period!! The Earnhardt family is close and will surround him with love and protection!
Even last year Jr thought something was going on when he was having a lot of trouble with tire sets at the end of races. He said "guard those tires." he was serious and we all wondered what was going on. Something stinks around the 88 team and someone better sniff it out.
I've heard more positive thoughts from Richard Childress about Dale Jr. "He can compete, he can drive," than from Mr Hendrick - let's get on the ball here and get this fixed boss.
Most troubling of all, to me, were the comments from Tony Gibson to David Newton.
All links to Gibson & petition - Dale Jr Fan petition - http://bit.ly/41kOp
Tony Gibson's comments - http://bit.ly/zWhqG ESPN news - Ryan McGee picked
up our petition and posted it on his blog - http://bit.ly/3HtOat
In closing I ask once again - Is it possible to take the chassis and engines from HMS and finish the car set-up at JRM? That is the only way to be sure that trusted people are working on this car, and I'm afraid some of the road crew will have to also be replaced. And, I'm really very sorry to have to say this but the crew chief needs to be much more experienced than Mr McGrew.
Scanner transcript - my version done to the best of my ability
Jr Air pressures came up pretty quick, neutral forward bite little less than we had Friday
first caution
11th place
real tight center
Jr pushing 20% all the way through center corner locking up front up pretty bad
Jr I put 4 rounds of rear brake in and it didn’t help any
11 got us - rear quarter panel
Jr It doesn’t turn in the middle and no forward bite.
------flat tire caution us :(
TJ tells LM to take 2 to not lose a lap
pit again for lefts
Jr car seems to be real hard on front brakes and no forward bite
Jr should I crank a bunch of rear brake? - LM keep putting rear in -
Jr I need help I don’t want to have flats all day long!!!!
LM I put the trackbar back down
second flat
Jr says - I hit the wall real hard [thanks for making us the crash dummy]
Jr If you got any ideas how to not blow tires let me know!!!
Jr I think we got more of an issue the way the car drives.
LM I don’t know why the brakes are so hot!
LM come back in let's raise the hood make sure there’s no brake duct loose............
Jr it ain’t as simple as that!!! We’ve had this [problem] all weekend.
You want my opinion ---- I WAS laying off the brakes when it f'ing blew!!!
LM first few laps they were cherry red when you went by
Jr let me know if they’re cherry red - anytime any other races anytime!! [emphasis added]
Jr were we racing Biffle for lucky dog LM no you were 2 laps down
back to one lap down
Jr whenever you can give me information where we are it would help!!! annoyed
LM what can we do
Jr make it turn in the center and more forward bite.
LM let's do the wave around -
Jr well everybody has to pit for it to work - LM if the leader pits we’ll get the wave around - [he still doesn't get this rule]
Jr - there’s always somebody who stays out [and Jr was right]
Jr We got grill tape on there?? water pressure 260 LM run the engine fan
Jr all fans are on!!
Car is neutral so any adjustments to help center will hurt exit
9 car caution TJ says he was getting a little wild there last 40 laps
Real tight
lucky dog
Rick says good job buddy hanging tough - you’re a lot faster than the guys in the front. [damage control?]
Jr where ever you pull the air for the helmet, it burns you need to move it.
LM you notice more when cars are on the outside? 10-4
Jr just rolls too free late off - I liked it 3 or 4 runs ago but got slick again
LM We kinda got to ration tires a little bit??? Talked about the set-up and.....
Jr I can save you time it won’t have any forward bite on the long runs. [Sarcasm is good at this point - cc should be able to figure this out - cars done the same thing all day]
Jr loose, spinning tires, tight center. used a lot of brakes there
LM I can see it........
Jr why can’t you say something I CAN'T SEE IT [from inside the car].
Jr if the rotor is red let me know please!!!!
pitted on the line - back up
Jr - sorry about that can’t believe I was that far over LM 10” Jr where’s that line anyway? I didn’t see no line I was looking for it, LM - white lines painted on the concrete - real genius
LM go easy
Jr I gotta run hard eventually!!! - I been running hard the last f'ing 10 years, don’t know what’s wrong with it today. Can’t believe this pad is that much different.
LM It doesn’t give you the warning the 01 does.
[annoyed] blowers been on all day TJ trying not to let these sob’s get hot again.
REAL, real tight
L front slides all the way thru center
3 laps down
No comment thru this from Jr
LM ease up I’m seeing red
Jr keep me updated I’m changing ??
LM your car is way up try to let it roll no trail braking
long pause..........
Jr This thing is wrecked and you can brake and not be trail braking I had to laugh for about 1/2 hour at that!!!
LM keep your foot off the brake pedal completely
Jr how many laps to go
95
60 to go
LM good job Dale
Jr it’s tight around lap 200 it was good
Jr How many laps down am I? LM ? Not sure 2 or 3 hang on - 2 laps
Jr Our front brakes don’t work at all you willing to copy that one????
LM I can write that comment down
Jr write that down - when the driver says the brakes don’t work & that he refuses to take responsibility!!
LM I didn’t have to write the 2nd part down [laughter on pitbox]
Jr I want it written down in the notes. so when I’m gone ya’ll can have them
LM back off a bit
Jr 10-4 backing
TJ Caution for debris - Jr asked what was debris - TJ said looks like a piece of rubber
Jr I call BS again - re: tire rubber debris
Jr is it a quickie? [caution]
Jr I want to pit
LM I don’t see a need to pit a six point difference is not worth a $1400 set of tires not worth it. [what?]
Jr I can cover it.
Unknown voice - Put it on 4 jack stands take the tires off.
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Fix the car!!



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» Discuss This Story
I really don't like the dialogue btn L.M. and Jr. This is particularly troubling: "Jr I want it written down in the notes. so when I’m gone ya’ll can have them"
The team is not going in the right direction.
I have no answers.
It is discouraging.
Terry (Posted Oct 26, 2009 7:11:35 AM)
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I too fear for his safety and am so glad that someone else see's what I've seen for a long time. Thank you for writing this article and for not being afraid to speak up on the subject.
shugaaaaaaaa (Posted Oct 26, 2009 7:13:26 AM)
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I don't know what to say...$100,000 question...Who/what/how to fix the 88??
jason (Posted Oct 26, 2009 8:04:47 AM)
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Since putting up the blog this morning I have received a troubling e-mail with information supporting what Tony Gibson commented on to David Newton.
"reliable sources" out of HMS even say that the 88 team needs an overhaul!! There are guys, over the wall guys, as well as shop guys, who think that Junior is riding on his name and can't stand working for him.
Why doesn't the head honcho know this.
I've often wondered about McGrew's comments on the scanner [twice] about having introverted crew members ?? This whole thing is beyond incredible.
Irene (Posted Oct 26, 2009 8:05:26 AM)
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I dare say Dale Jr has more fans than Jimmie Johnson and Jeff Gordon combined - the pet HMS duo in the pet 24/48 shop.
If Mark Martin was NOT in the 5/25/88 shop and they still had Casey Mears - no offense - would they have anything to brag about in that shop at all this year?
Rick Hendrick promised Dale Jr the world and hasn't delivered anything but leftovers and broken parts. What has he promised and delivered to Mark Martin? Why doesn't Dale Jr get the same courtesy Mark Martin got - GoDaddy.com sponsorship still kills me going on that car and no real announcement about JRM sponsors.
Pete (Posted Oct 26, 2009 11:51:10 AM)
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Dale Jr had the perfect crew chief (Tony Eury Sr), but Tony Sr was getting burned out, and Dale Jr didn't like being criticized all the time, now he wants a disciplinarian, but Tony Sr, doesn't want toi go through the stress of running a Cup team, and there just aren't Tony Eury Sr's floating around out there, so Junior needs to make do with what he has got right now.
Hank (Posted Oct 26, 2009 4:19:37 PM)
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All I have to say is this,, I am a Jeff Gordon fan so I shouldn't be critical of HMS, but I can't help myself. Everyone says they are an A+ team, well, they are not! If they were, then Dale Jr. wouldn't not have been given the crap equipment that he has been given! Yes, he has made some mistakes on his own, but he has been given bad cars more than he has made mistakes. I just feel awful about him. He deserves betterthan what he has been given. I just hope he does well this weekend at Talladega.
Anne-Marie (Posted Oct 27, 2009 8:32:52 AM)
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You really think he has gotten bad equipment? What motivation is there for Rick Hendrick to screw over the most lucrative sponsorship they have? Dale Jr has been the 7th best Hendrick car this year, (Johnson, Martin, Gordon, Stewart, Newman and Keselowski) have all done much better. Dale Jr is just a lot harder on his equipment, and the equipment failures are more on the drivers shoulders than the teams. When he was at DEI, he always had more failures than his other teammates. I think he gets embarrassed running bad, and misses shifts on purpose to blow up the engines. I am not saying Dale Jr is a bad driver, but he blew it when he insisted that Tony Eury Jr be his crew chief, even though Rick Hendrick wanted to have Alan Gustafson crew chief that car. Junior's mistake, has been a god send to Mark Martin who at age 50, is enjoying one of his best seasons of his career. The problem is, that none of the top crew chiefs in the garage want that job, because of all the pressure and expectations that come along with that job. If Dale Jr wins, it is because he is Dale Jr, if he doesn't win, it is because you are awful as a crew chief, no one wants that pressure.
Hank (Posted Oct 27, 2009 10:16:01 AM)
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Thanks everyone for the comments - all ideas are welcome at this point. How can we help Jr in a positive way!
Special thanks to Anne-Marie - hearing from a Jeff Gordon fan who understands and sympathizes with our plight is very, very nice!!
Irene (Posted Oct 27, 2009 10:18:46 AM)
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Hank - Hank - Hank - Jr purposely missing shifts to blow the engine - that's ridiculous. So you're saying he's sabotaging himself --- for what reason? You sound like one of the crew members!
This will all come out here shortly - some disgruntled people either in the shop or on the road crew think Jr is riding on his name only - aka jealousy on their part IMO.
I can't say any more than that - you will just have to wait. I am beyond amazed though that RH hasn't been made aware of this, or if he has why in holy hell hasn't he done anything!?!
Irene (Posted Oct 27, 2009 10:25:03 AM)
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I think LM should straighten up and fly right were not talking about civillian brakes were talking about a car that goes 198 or 200 miles an hour. I am DAM worrried about juniors Safety now after reading this article.
dalesbaby88 (Posted Oct 28, 2009 4:31:36 AM)
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